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Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Graying Granny Marion Hammer excellent example of NRA’s brain washing


Marion Hammer

Attacking grandmothers is not something I would normally do but Marion Hammer is the exception.  She is ruthless in her loyalty to the National Rifle Assn. (NRA), one who illustrates perfectly just how this gun worshipping culture is instilled in kids from a very young age.  She was five when her grandfather gave her a .22 bolt-action single-shot rifle—at least it didn’t have a high-capacity magazine—and ordered her to “hunt down a rabbit or a squirrel for dinner.”

In 1995 she was president of the NRA and today is committed as a top lobbyist for the organization dedicated to putting a gun in the hands of every American—including even 5-year-olds—and make it legal for them to carry their weapons anywhere they want to.  She was the ramrod behind the “Stand your Ground” law which has been deemed responsible for the Florida shooting and killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman.  She is now 70 years old.


Brian Malte

“Brian Malte, director of legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said he considers Hammer an extremist.”  Further, "Marion Hammer and the NRA are the masterminds of a dangerous paranoid mentality that got Trayvon Martin killed, the mentality that is responsible for endangering all of our lives.  It's based on a lie that you need to be armed to the teeth anywhere you go,” said Malte.


Gary Kleck

Rep. Dennis Baxley, the Ocala Republican who sponsored Florida's Stand Your Ground law in 2005, counters. "It's not because we want to shoot somebody," he said. "We want to keep people from getting hurt."  Based on that statement, I looked for some confirmation of just how often an individual’s personal gun is used for self-defense.  The latest I could find was a 1997 study by Gary Kleck, an expert and Professor of Criminology at Fla. State U.  He said: 

“…gun ownership is largely passive self-protection--once a gun is acquired, the owner only rarely does anything defensive with it. Only a minority of defensive owners actually use their guns for self-protection; most of the rest just keep the gun in a bureau drawer or similar location, where it is available for use should the need arise.”

There’s more.  In 2008, Hammer and the NRA defied Walt Disney and the Chamber of Commerce and were the driving force behind a 2008 law that allows employees to bring guns to work -- as long as they lock the weapons in the car.”  She wasn’t done.  Her next pursuit was taking on the medical community to pass legislation “…to prevent doctors from asking young patients about guns in their homes. A judge shot down that law, saying it violated doctors' free speech.”

In the following video you must watch it to the end for the true meaning:



Apparently “Stand your Ground” was inspired by a Florida homeowner, 77-year-old James Workman, who shot and killed an intruder in a trailer outside his hurricane-damaged home.  He wasn’t prosecuted because it was legal to protect yourself in your home against imminent harm.  A reasonable law that most gun control advocates agree with.  But that wasn’t good enough for Marion Hammer, who saw an opening to move gun defense out onto the streets.

Hammer is described as “emotionally compelling’ in her presentations to lawmakers.  What is more important than her enthusiasm to these under thumb legislators is the fact that, if they don’t cooperate, the NRA will cut off contributions to future campaigns and back a competitor in the next election to run them out of office.  It is bad enough when money alone can decide elections but it is tragic in the hands of a Marion Hammer and the NRA.

Hammer has said little following the killing of Trayvon Martin, only commenting that Stand your Ground is “a good law.”  It is this complete lack of recognition for what is wrong and the lack of responsibility to admit you have perpetrated something horrible on the American public, that is defined by many as typical NRA arrogance.  And it will go on as long as the Marion Hammers and her NRA are allowed to pass more gun rights laws and loosen those on the books.

31 comments:

  1. This article is a fantastic example of mis-stated facts, innuendo, and plain old fear mongering. You lefties that believe in this tripe have no concept about "the right to bear arms", the necessity to bear arms, and the protection it insures upon those that bear arms. You're like that Saturday night live character that was a "girlie man" that live your lives in fear. Gun owners don't. Plain and simple. And hows this for a "monster in your closet" moment: Gun ownership has grown profoundly in the last 3 years. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you anti-gun nut jobs.

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    1. Everything in my article is fact-checked, much unlike the garbage spewed by your NRA.

      And I can't imagine you would call me a fear mongerer when that is ALL the NRA has to dupe the American public and prod its wingnut membership to support it with your dues. Pathetic.

      Surprised you'd quote from SNL which definitely leans liberal, but I don't live my life in fear, never have, and have never talked to anyone who does simply because they do not have a gun. I have always relied on law enforcement and they have always come through.

      Gun ownership has grown "profoundly" because gun worshipping wackos, no doubt like yourself, keep buying them for whatever stupid reasons you have. And then some of them end up on the streets or in inexperienced hands, as many recent shootings show.

      And I am not anti-gun, I am anti-loose guns, and laws that allow just anyone to carry and take them anywhere they want.

      The call is out for more gun control so you'd better get used to it.

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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    2. How hysterical. I don't own a gun, because I do not need one to keep myself very safe. Gun wack gunsels are suck-ass cowards who are paranoid losers, who have sexual inadequacies. I am sure that NRA members have a far higher rate of viagra prescription. As a 60 YO man, I have no need for artificial aids. I also know that my neighborhood is safe. Of course, most gun wacks have guns and this makes them stupid as well. They have the gun, and they do stupid shit, and that leads them to need to use the gun.

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    3. So, "I have always relied on law enforcement and they have always come through."
      What does this mean? Please elaborate, circumstances and incidents. Also, you do understand cops carry weapons to protect themself? Not you you or I.

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    4. If you can't figure this out without elaboration, you shouldn't be carrying a gun.

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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    5. You are absolutely incorrect my friend. Again, what situation(s) did law enforcement help you? An incident either happened, or it did not and you are lying to us. Give us the run-down of what happened: who, what, when, where?
      And what does not knowing about your specific incident preclude me from carrying a firearm? I have carried a weapon for a living for years. I even carry on when not at work.
      Oh yeah, do not lie to us about your so called "reliance on law enforcement," be specific because there will be a report. I can obtain that up with some ease.

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    6. You are not my friend! So go ask LaPierre for the report and if it is accurate, which I douby, I guarantee I will publish the results. But going in, I don't trust anything you gun worshippers get from the NRA, period!

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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    7. What I get from your response is that you have never been in a real life or death situation where you were required to defend yourself, let alone been in a situation where you called law enforcement for assistance. So you made it all up?
      I am asking serious questions that should be easy for you to answer. By answering me you would be defending your position and giving your side of the argument more leverage.

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    8. No I haven't and don't expect to be and that is the point. Now please don't waste anymore of my reader' time.

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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  2. Whenever I read about an atrocity involving firearms, I pray the prayer of St Gunsel: "Jesus, a terrible thing has occurred. Lord, let those who lived by the gun be the ones who died by the gun. Lord, please let all those dead be NRA members or Republicans. For a special blessing, Oh Lord, let it be a 2-fer."

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    1. I will pray the prayer of St. Gunsel for you in particular, Calico Jack.

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    2. Pray all you want, I’m agnostic.

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  3. Nasty Jack - This is my answer to two recent comments on Apr. 20, that have not been published due to the fact that I do not allow "anonymous" comments. I will be glad to reconsider if you resubmit.

    One statement that "good people need to own a gun to defend themselves," is ludicrous. I know hundreds of "good people," have read about thousands who have weathered situations where you feel a gun was required, but not one of them owns a gun, nor do they have plans to buy one. They, like I, have relied on law enforcement and it has worked. I am still looking for figures on all those poor people that have had to use their guns to defend themselves. Perhaps you have them??? In the meantime, be careful with your weapon and don't shoot yourself or someone innocent.

    And the second comment, it is clear that George Zimmerman was acting against the orders of law enforcement when he stalked and confronted Trayvon Martin. If he had stayed in his automobile and waited for law enforcement to handle the issue, Martin would be alive today. Thus, it is Zimmerman's interpretation of "stand your ground" that allowed him to shoot and kill the black teenager, when the kid was just trying to defend himself. Looks like that makes you the IDIOT! Poor Marion Hammer, but you are right about one thing. She is the "driving force" behind legislating change but not for the better. If you look carefully at FBI figures, violence stats are only slightly down and shootings are climbing at an alarming rate. In my April 3, post, I reported 48 dead from 49 shooting in the U.S. in MARCH ONLY! And Marion Hammer and the NRA can take the credit for many of those deaths.

    Jack E. Dunning
    Nasty Jack Blog

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    1. A 911 operator is not law enforcement and has no real authority.

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    2. Yes Law enforcement does a great job. I support our officers and everything they do to protect us. I have worked in the emergency services for ten years, out best response time is a minimum of 2:45 seconds after recieving the call, and this is after the average of 17 seconds it takes to interpret someones highly stressed 911 call. Law enforcemnt cannot protect my family during those three minutes so the resposibility falls on me, the parent. I do not support children and young irresponsible adults carrying concealed weapons but I do support home owners protecting themselves, and property from intruders or those i
      Tending to do harm, or at least criminals who have placed themselves in situations that would cause them to act aggresively and/or defensively if surprised by a home owner. They are already srtessed and on edge, this is where criminals react and people get hurt. The number 2 leading cause of death in children is from drowning, the average time it takes for the unthinkable tragedy to happen is .... Yep 3 mimutes. Protecting yourself and your family and property is not just our right but our responsiblity.

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  4. POed Lib and Jack Dunning, you guys are scary, very scary.

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    1. WE are scary? Wow, you must be a gunwack gunsel, scared of shadows, dust-mites, and pixies. What are you scared of?

      I do not carry a gun. I am a man, and that is scary to wienies, gun wacks, and gunnuts from the NRA. They do not understand that the thing that makes a person an adult (man or woman) has nothing to do with a weapon. It has to do with your sense of self. I do not need a weapon. You obviously do, and without one, you are just a piece of spaghetti. I pity you, but have ultimately contempt for gunwacks. Gunwacks have no core. They are just empty vessals and without their crutch they will collapse.

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  5. Dear Jack,

    No disrespect at all however you are on another planet all together with your very open to interpretation derogatory comments. You have only one clue. And that sir is yours. Fortunately for most US Citizens we do have a Right to protect ourselves and our family from assailants had a family member killed by a crazed person with a knife. Had my family member had a gun he would still be here today. Until it happens to you our your family. Keep your comments to yourself. People who want to harm someone can do so Armed or unarmed.

    Regards

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    1. I'm sure that your family member was killed due to an inability to write in a grammatically correct manner. This is known to drive some persons mad, and they become irate, sometimes maniacally so. Do work to correct your incompetence and stupidity when writing, doubtless due to sucking your gun excessively.

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    2. POed Lib once again brings nothing of substance to the conversation. Troll

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    3. You can always tell a rightard because they capitalize Words that stand for important Concepts.

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  6. Also Nasty Jack, It is a recorded fact that the increase of Gun Ownership in recent years has lead to a major decline in crime overall. Please look that up also. I see that there are many areas of this subject that you do not investigate or accurately report.

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    1. You are wrong, AGAIN; there is no specific data to connect gun ownership to decreasing crime. And I fact-check everything in my posts. Why don't you try being specific?

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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    2. Well, as I said in an earlier post, a 911 operator is not law enforcement. Mr. Dunning clearly said in a post, "[I]t is clear that George Zimmerman was acting against the orders of law enforcement"
      Here is at least one thing not fact-checked.

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    3. A 911 operator is acting in the interim to support law enforcement and follows through according to how they have been trained by law enforcement. Thus, at the moment, they are law enforcement. For God sakes quit splitting hairs and as I said earlier, don't waste anymore of my readers' time.

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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    4. Actually, this is also wrong. 911 operators are not deputized in any shape, form, or fashion.

      If anyone is wasting readers time, it's you spouting off all this sheepish waste of how we should put our head between our knees and kiss our asses good bye in the event of being victimized in a violent crime.

      The less you fact check and the less you back up your opinions without facts, the less credible you look.

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    5. Yes, you are correct, they are “support” to law enforcement. However, there is no legal obligation to follow the direction of a 911 operator; they are not sworn officers of the law and there is never a “moment” where they are law enforcement officers. You are the one acting all holier than the rest of us about fact-checking. You got called out for being wrong and do not like it, suck it up cup cake. I know more about this stuff than you do. Stop wasting your time arguing with me, I am smarter than you.

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    6. American with rightsMay 1, 2012 at 9:35 AM

      What order did he disobey? The 911 operator, who is just an operator, merely stated, "I don't need you to do that" when Zimmerman announced that he was following Martin. Way to "fact check". You must get your info from NBC.

      By the way thr Stand Your Ground law doesn't keep shooters from being arrested without clear proof of self defense, as stated by the lady at the end of that video. Perhaps you should read the law. http://laws.flrules.org/files/Ch_2005-027.pdf

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    7. As I have said over and over, the 911 operator is the go-between with law enforcement and authorized to give callers instructions in the emergency. You should know this, and Zimmertman would have, had he been a responsible gun owner.

      Jack E. Dunning
      Nasty Jack Blog

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  7. I believe that everyone has the right to protect themselves and own a gun, if they choose to, provided for in the Constitution and the laws that allow you to protect yourself wherever you are. What I don't hear is ALL of the information about these laws getting publicized. There are many places that you are not allowed under any circumstance to have a gun and these make sense to me. The NRA may go too far in trying to loosen up the current laws, but they also protect and promote the laws we have to protect our rights from those that want to strip away these rights. They also promote responsibility and safety both to operate and Own a firearm.

    I believe in gun ownership but also believe in the law. My first line of defense is the phone to the police if in a situation that warrants protection, that is their job, if pushed to defend myself or my family – I will! I also believe that everyone should be familiar with guns and know how to safely handle them, this would prevent a lot of accidents as the case last month where a girl was shot and killed in a church because the youth didn’t have the proper training to handle a firearm.

    In the recent case of George Zimmerman - he is a want-a-be cop doing what he was told not to do, did not have the training or authority to do what he did – kill someone and then say it was self-defense. How stupid is that! And even more ignorant is the media to infer that the “stand your ground” law even applies here. He stalked and killed someone and should be punished!

    As for the statement from Hammer regarding that the “stand your ground” law is a good law, I agree. It seems that the media takes everything out of context to pitch whatever agenda they have instead of giving us the whole story and letting US decide for ourselves what is right or wrong.

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